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Is Buu's absorption something special or just adding powers?
Topic Started: Feb 9 2016, 12:16 AM (1,077 Views)
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Kid Buu on his own is around Ssj3 Goku's level. Kid Buu with South Kai was believed to be stronger than Evil Buu as Goku pointed out. So was Buu absorption just adding South Kai's power?
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Nothing contradicts South Kaioshin being that strong, but I don't think that Kaioshins can be absorbed and only add to Boo's power. Considering Dai Kaioshin actually weakened Boo, it's not a stretch to say that Kaioshins simply effect Boo differently, due to some magical reason.
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Not denying South Kai was close to Kid Buu, this is why the Ultra buff Buu was consider stronger than Evil Buu. jUst asking in general is Buu's absorption adding the person's powers to his own? and was South Kai a special case?
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Feb 9 2016, 12:22 AM
Not denying South Kai was close to Kid Buu, this is why the Ultra buff Buu was consider stronger than Evil Buu. jUst asking in general is Buu's absorption adding the person's powers to his own? and was South Kai a special case?
Two equally possible variants:
- Either only Super Buu's absorptions are direct power additions and Kid Buu's affect him on a more fundamental level
- Or Kaioshins affect any form of Buu on a fundamental level

Regardless of which option you choose, manga events remain. Even if the South Kaioshin was as strong as Kid Buu or close, Super Buu was definitely more than 2x Kid Buu, and Buff Buu was even stronger than that. So absorbing the South Kaioshin was definitely more than A + B for Buu's power. On the other hand, absorbing Daikaioshin brought him back down to below Kid Buu levels, which makes equally little sense.

But add the fact that Evil Buu eating (absorbing) Good Buu amounted to way more than an A+B increase as well, and Good Buu was at that point mostly the essence of Daikaioshin, I'm leaning towards the "Kaioshins being special" option.
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Not sure if it was a mistranslation or what not but didn't Goku say Buu lost 1/3 of his power when Gotenks defused inside him? Not sure about my math here but I would think that ssj3 Gotenks should be more than 1/3 of the power of Buutenks.
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Feb 9 2016, 12:58 AM
Not sure if it was a mistranslation or what not but didn't Goku say Buu lost 1/3 of his power when Gotenks defused inside him? Not sure about my math here but I would think that ssj3 Gotenks should be more than 1/3 of the power of Buutenks.
He definitely didn't say that because that's not true. Gotenks is more or less even with Super Buu with a slight advantage, so Buutenks is over 2x base Super Buu.
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Feb 9 2016, 12:58 AM
Not sure if it was a mistranslation or what not but didn't Goku say Buu lost 1/3 of his power when Gotenks defused inside him? Not sure about my math here but I would think that ssj3 Gotenks should be more than 1/3 of the power of Buutenks.
He definitely didn't say that because that's not true. Gotenks is more or less even with Super Buu with a slight advantage, so Buutenks is over 2x base Super Buu.
I think you're correct. I believe that was an anime line. Forgive me, I really need to brush up on the manga. Anyways, I always thought Buu's absorption was just adding powers and abilities. The reason why Kid Buu got weaker after absorbing Dai Kai was bc of the Kai's essance and in return would be a side effect of absorbing "powers".
Edited by Griffzilla, Feb 9 2016, 01:06 AM.
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It seems to be addition, because if it wasn't then Ultimate Gohan shouldn't have been able to break out of Bootenks' three rings. Goten and Trunks say Gohan is a little stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, so it being addition seems to make sense.
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Gods are the complete opposite of majins so I'm guessing it causes an odd reaction. Especially depending on the status of the God.

Imagine if Boo absorbed Beerus?
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He'd probably come off as seeming extremely weak but would have a seemingly endless pool of Ki to tap into whenever he got angry.
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So what is everybody opinion of Buu + South Kai absorption? Did it increase Buu's power more like multiplication or addition?
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I bet it varies among gods and magic. No tellin' how magic works.
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Feb 9 2016, 03:04 AM
So what is everybody opinion of Buu + South Kai absorption? Did it increase Buu's power more like multiplication or addition?
I'd go with multiplication, or an arbitrary, huge set number or something. Probably since the South Kaioshin embodied "strength", he bestowed upon Buu the property of "strength" - making him bulky as hell and well, strong.

As previously established, A+B wouldn't be enough, seeing how strong Super Buu was, let alone Buff Buu.
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More than powers, I think he takes special traits of the absorbed victim

In Gotenks case, Super Boo took his vest & SSJ3's long hair actually lengthened Boo's tail

When he absorbed Gohan, he took the gi & inexperienced mindstate (not knowing abt chi & stuff)

Like-wise, I felt South Kai's big build & aggresive nature (compared to regular Kais) resulted in Buff Buu, who spiked above Super Boo

With Chubby Grand Kaioshin, his gentle soul tamed the beast. Simple as that.
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Feb 9 2016, 11:47 AM
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Feb 9 2016, 03:04 AM
So what is everybody opinion of Buu + South Kai absorption? Did it increase Buu's power more like multiplication or addition?
I'd go with multiplication, or an arbitrary, huge set number or something. Probably since the South Kaioshin embodied "strength", he bestowed upon Buu the property of "strength" - making him bulky as hell and well, strong.

As previously established, A+B wouldn't be enough, seeing how strong Super Buu was, let alone Buff Buu.
I know this looks like I'm attacking you today, but I'm not.

If Boo's absorbing was multiplication then Gohan shouldn't have been able to break out of Boo's three rings...which clearly surprised Boo as well. It actually makes sense for Bootenks to be Super Boo + SSJ3 Gotenks.
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